请推荐一款5000元以内DAC+功放打造音乐厅的现场聆听感受

ET703

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5千块还想音乐厅的现场聆听感受?  500万都不可能.  哈哈[s:14][s:14]

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索尼新推出的USB 、DAC、耳放、功放一体机SONY UDA-1，这次瞄准的是PC-HIFI市场，喜欢它的精致小巧（大约A4纸那么大），做工扎实, 官方卖RMB 4,999元，但淘宝上日本代购只卖三千元出头的价钱（电压为100V,国内使用需配功率相当的变压器），性价比较高，唯一的问题就是整体输出功率小了，而且只能带一对音箱。




数字输入格式
USB 后        PCM （采样频率: 44.1 k/48 k/88.2 k/96 k/176.4 k/192 kHz, data bit length: 16/24/32 bits）, DSD （2.8 M/5.6 MHz）
USB 前        PCM （采样频率: 32 k/44.1 k/48 kHz,data bit length: 16 bits）
同轴        PCM （采样频率: 32 k/44.1 k/48 k/88.2 k/96 k/176.4 k/192 kHz, data bit length: 16/24 bits）
OPTICAL        PCM （采样频率: 32 k/44.1 k/48 k/88.2 k/96 kHz, data bit length: 16/24 bits）
DSEE
DSEE 自动/关        支持（除DSD输入和模拟输入）
放大器
输出功率        23W + 23W
音调控制        调节 SS-HA3
头戴耳机输出功率
输出功率(1% 1kHz 8Ohm)        约17mW
输出功率 (1% 1kHz 32Ohm)        约55mW
输出功率(1% 1kHz 300Ohm)        约170mW
接触插孔
接触插孔        Gold
音频输入
光纤        1
同轴        1
模拟音频输入        1
外部音频输入
LPCM        支持(2ch only)
音频输出
头戴耳机输出        1
Line Out        1
USB终端
USB接口（A）        Yes
USB接口（B）        Yes
扬声器终端
类型        旋拧
频率        10Hz - 100KHz (+0dB, -3dB)
信噪比        100dB
放大器声道        2
能耗        约65W
待机消耗        约0.3W
尺寸(宽x高x深 mm)        约225x74x262
净重        约4.0kg
包装箱(宽x高x深 mm)        约333x193x298
重量        5kg
其他
USB DAC 驱动        支持(Mac, Windows(ASIO))
PC应用        支持(D/L)

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ET703 发表于 2013-12-23 21:52
楼主,我给你推荐个牌子,叫------做梦

5千块还想音乐厅的现场聆听感受?  500万都不可能.  哈哈 ...

500万就请管弦乐团现场演奏了，哈哈！

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补充一点重要内容：SONY UDA-1后面板的USB接口是异步传输模式，具有检错和纠错功能，支持直接播放flac无损格式音频，但如果我用MacBook笔记本电脑上的Cog这款中规中矩的音频播放器直接播放ape无损格式音频，很想知道会出现什么情况？会显示无法播放？

说明书是这样写的，When a signal of a format not supported is input, the USB REAR lamp flashes. Inputting such a signal may produce noise or even damage the speakers or headphones if played at a high volume. 会损坏扬声器？

http://docs.esupport.sony.com/homeav/Hi-Res_Audio/UDA1_guide/en/contents/TP0000222153.html?search=damage

另外，好像这款功放只完美支持索尼SS-HA3扬声器，不知道UDA-1对更高级别的SS-HA1支持得如何，是不是因为功率的问题，不能充分发挥SS-HA1音箱的全部性能？

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AD-68HI-FI合并式功放是广州天逸电子有限公司于研发上市的超薄型高档次HI-FI合并式功率放大器，旨在为讲求品味的音乐爱好者营造一种音质音色及外观视觉效果都精致、精彩、时尚的高保真音乐控制中心。并在机内设置了CD（即DAC）解码器。是一款高档次的发烧型超薄合并式功放。

可能质量不错，就是体积太大了。

信 噪 比：（A计权）≥96dB
电气指标介绍：

频率响应：10Hz-60KHz  （+1 dB -3dB）
失 真 度：≤0.038%
输出功率（RMS）：80W×2（8Ω）120W×2（4Ω）
匹配阻抗：8Ω
功    耗：240W±10%
整机尺寸: 444(宽)×413(深)×66(高)
重量 :12.2Kg

                        AD-68高保真合并式功放 3998元/台

                                            型号：AD-68
                        类型：HI-FI功放
                        价格：3998元

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以PC作为音源其实还是有点麻烦，听歌时MacBook Pro就基本无法挪动地方了，何不干脆买一个索尼新出的硬盘播放器HAP-S1 HDD Audio Player，这玩意可以直接播放flac等压缩格式音乐，有内置500G硬盘，比UDA-1功率大将近一倍，也可以外接硬盘，转换一下格式把歌曲都拷贝进去就可以了，可以用手机或者播放器前面的液晶屏挑选操作播放机。这个国内还没有正式开卖，但淘宝上5000多元就可以从日本代购，就是不知道操作界面是否有英语的，如果是日语就麻烦了。




Model:
HAP-S1
HAP-S1 HDD Audio Player System
Take your music enjoyment to new heights

500GB HDD audio system with 2x40W analogue amplifier, easy music file transfer & smartphone browsing

    Enjoy digital music closer to the original master
    Store your music collection on a 500GB hard drive
    Easily browse and control music from a smartphone
    2 years warranty included

Features HAP-S1

    Hear pure, unadulterated High-Resolution (Hi-Res) Audio - Take your listening beyond CD quality playing High-Resolution Audio files
    Compressed music, at high resolution - With DSEE you can play compressed digital music files and still enjoy your favourite songs just as they were recorded
    Transfer files with ease - Copy music files to the hard drive over Wi-Fi, and when you add new music files to your PC they'll get copied automatically
    Take control of your music collection - Easily browse your music at speed using the front-panel LCD or use the dedicated smartphone app as a remote control
    Storage for your entire music collection - The HAP-S1 has a huge 500GB hard drive, so you can store a large amount of hi-res and compressed music files
    Stay in tune with your music - When files are copied to the hard drive, track names are automatically checked against an online database for accuracy
    Compatible with a range of file types - Play Hi-Res Audio from a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats including FLAC, WAV, AIFF, DSD (DFF) and DSD (DSF)

Technical SpecificationsHAP-S1

Please note our accessories are model specific and specifications may differ from country to country.

Internal HDD    YES (500GB)

External HDD    YES (Rear USB)

PC Sync (Music/Video/Photo)  YES/-/-

Maximum number of music    20,000 title

Internet Music Service     vTuner

Sleep Timer   YES

Auto Standby  YES

Playback Codec

DSDIFF(DSD)  YES

DSDIFF(DST)   -

DSF  YES

MP3  YES

WAV(LPCM)  YES

WMA  YES

AAC  YES

FLAC  YES

ALAC  YES

ATRAC(NON DRM)  YES

AIFF(LPCM)  YES
  
Features

DSEE  YES

Tone Control    Front (Bass / Treble)

Speaker Impedance  4-16 Ohm

Frequency Response   10Hz - 100KHz(+0dB, -3dB)

Signal-to-Noise Ratio(A Network)(When all of EQ/Surround off)  100dB
  
Network Features

Ethernet  YES

Wi-Fi  YES(IEEE802.11b/g/n)

Network Update  YES

Network Standby YES
  
Amplifier Output Power
       
40W + 40W (10%, 1kHz, 4Ohm)

Inputs & Outputs

Optical Digital Input  1

Coaxial Digital Input  1

Analog Audio Input  2

Audio Audio Output 1

Headphone Output  1

Speaker Output  1

USB  2 (For external HDD x 1, For PC x 1 )
  
General Specifications

Display  LCD(4.3inch)

Power Requirement  230V 50/60Hz

Power Consumption(W)  85

Power Consumption Standby (W)  0.3

Dimension(WxHxD mm) 265 x 88 x 304

Weight(kg)  5.8

Remote control   RM-ANU183/S

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索尼官方给我的回答如下

尊敬的客户：

您好！
   
这里是索尼互动中心，非常感谢您对索尼产品的垂询。

有关您在邮件中咨询UDA-1使用相关的事宜，请详阅以下内容：

1、 当UDA-1输入不支持格式的信号时，USB REAR（后置）指示灯会闪烁。如果以高音量进行播放，输入这种信号可能会产生噪音，甚至损坏扬声器或耳机。

2、 UDA-1目前得到的适配扬声器型号是SS-HA3。UDA-1高解析度功放设备放大器部分规格信息如下：
- 参考功率输出：23瓦+23瓦（4欧姆，1千赫，总谐波失真10%）；
- 额定功率输出：20瓦+20瓦（4欧姆，1千赫，总谐波失真0.9%）；
- 扬声器阻抗匹配：4欧姆-16欧姆。

如需更多帮助，敬请访问索尼（中国）客户服务与支持网站：http://service.sony.com.cn。

您也可以通过以下方式联络我们，

索尼中国顾客咨询热线： 400 810 9000
服务时间： 9:00 - 21:00(周一至周六)，9:00 - 18:00(周日)
电子邮箱： ccc@sony.com.cn

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来自台湾的谷津 U1S Integrated Power Amplifier 綜合擴大機，是最新款式，性价比较高， 就是好像输入不是USB异步传输，而且该公司主要以生产耳放为主。




从左至右依次为：
第一排，上数字同轴输入，下边为一组3.5立体声模拟输出
第二排，上数字光纤输入，下边为USB输入
第三排，选择开关 ，向上为数字同轴，中为光纤，最下面为USB 。 提示一下，其实USB和光纤是一样的，因为谷津为了避免从笔记本地线串扰给U1/U2的噪讯，USB信号是先转化成光信号才给解码器的，光纤不用地线，也就没有了普通PC HIFI因为地线问题带来的背景不纯净的瑕疵
第四排，选择开关，向上为数字信号输入，向下为模拟信号输入
第五排，模拟信号输入端子
第六排、第七排，音箱香蕉插座输出端子

第八排，电源插座,插座底部有一个保险丝的小盒，用改锥拨出来之后，可以更换保险管

特性規格：
POWER  OUTPUT         50w at 8 ohm  
65w at 8 ohm @ 10 ％
90w at 4 ohm  
FREQUENCY  RESPONSE         12hz ~ 100khz ,  ＋0dB ，– 3dB
TOTAL  HARMONIC  DISTORTION         Less then 0.0065 %
S/N  RATIO         110dB
DAMPING  FACTOR         60
GAIN         40  dB
INPUT  IMPEDANCE         100k ohm
SLEWING  RATE         20v/us
ANALOG  INPUTS         1 RCA
PEAK  CURRENT  OUTPUT         13A/1ms
PEAK  VOLTAGE  OUTPUT         34V/1ms
DIGITAL  INPUT  OPTI         SPDIF  192K/24 Bit
DIGITAL  INPUT  COAX         SPDIF  192K/24 Bit
DIGITAL  INPUT  USB         44.1K~96K/16~24 Bit
Dimensions(H×D×W)         55×320×165 m/m
Weight         4.6 kg

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国外评测：HAP-S1用的是 Class AB 功放

http://www.electronista.com/articles/13/09/23/sony.aims.for.audiophiles.with.high.res.music.player.headphones/

Hands on: Sony HAP-S1 High-Res Music Player, MDR-10R headphones

updated 06:36 am EDT, Mon September 23, 2013
Sony aims for audiophiles with high-res music player, headphones

Electronista recently had the opportunity to spend some pre-release hands-on time with the forthcoming Sony HAP-S1 High Resolution Music Player first announced at IFA Berlin a couple of weeks ago. The new player gives music lovers the chance to really enjoy high quality digital recordings including in the popular FLAC format and Apple Lossless Audio Codec (ALAC) through a 2-channel Class AB amplifier rated at 40 Watts RMS per channel. We also had the chance to test the system out on the similarly just announced Sony MDR-10R High Resolution headphones with both making a formidable combination for getting the most out of your high resolution audio files.

The Sony HAP-S1 incorporates a 500GB hard drive with expandable storage and can sync your audio files directly from either a Mac or a PC using Sony's HAP Music Transfer software. In addition to FLAC and ALAC, it supports a wide variety of alternative formats including PCM up to 192KHz in 24-bit depth, DSD, AAC, ATRAC Advanced Lossless and AIFF. It incorporates a DSD Re-mastering Engine that can upscale audio to DSD (5.6) quality, while it also utilizes Sony's Digital Sound Enhancement Engine (DSEE) that restores missing data from compressed files. The system can be matched with Sony's new SS-HA1 High Resolution Speakers, sold separately, although we didn't get a chance to listen to these although they were on hand.

The new Sony MDR-10R headphones are a closed dynamic type and utilize a PET diaphragm and a pair of 40mm drivers matched with a pair of neodymium magnets. Sensitivity is 100dB/mW, impedance is rated at 40ohm(1kHz) while the frequency response is a wide 5Hz-40,000Hz with beat response control. In addition to using an enfolding structure, detachable tangle-free serrated cords, it adds supper soft ear cushions for added comfort. They weigh in at just 180grams, while Sony's engineers also worked with its Sony Music artists to help refine audio reproduction and the tone of the MDR-10Rs.

It is great to see Sony getting into high-resolution audio gear, as there clearly is an appetite in the market place for well-priced, but high quality audio gear for delivering optimal audio quality from digital files. It is also very clever, and thoughtful, of Sony to offer the HAP-S1 on its own, without encumbering potential buyers with a pair of speakers that they may not want depending on their listening circumstances. At the same time, having the option to pick up the matched SS-HA1 speakers is an ideal scenario for those who may not have a set of high quality speakers already, but who don't want to go to the hassle of tracking down a suitable pair.

For our hands-on, we spent some quality time with the HAP-S1 paired with Sony's MDR-10R headphones, similarly designed to take full advantage of audio capabilities of the HAP-S1 music player. The listening experience is, in a word, superb. We listened to a range of FLAC tracks with a wide dynamic range and the sound was crystal clear with the nuances of vocals and instruments like the acoustic guitar coming through on an expansive, but controlled sound stage. Music sounded punchy when it needed to, with strong, distortion-free bass present and trebles that were highly detailed, but never sounding harsh. The mid-range was also well balanced, adding warmth, with the overall listening experience quite difficult to fault.

Although you don't need to buy the Sony headphones to get the most out of the HAP-S1 (or vice versa), the two do work together very well. However, although we didn't get to try a different set of headphones with the HAP-S1, we suspect that if you already have a favorite pair, you will still be more than pleased with the capabilities of the HAP-S1 listening experience. While there are a number of high-quality external DAC adapters that PC and Mac users can choose from, there is nothing quite like the experience of listening to your audio files through a purpose made piece of gear with a high-quality Class AB amp.

If you're looking to get the most out of your lossless digital audio collection, the Sony HAP-S1 music player offers excellent value for money at a suggested retail of $999. Look out for it this fall in a choice of black or silver. The Sony MDR-10R headphones are available for pre-order now and are priced at $200 and come in either black or white. Both are part of Sony's new high-res audio range.

By Sanjiv Sathiah

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仔细阅读了HAP-S1的手机客户端在线用户手册，发现传送音频文件只能通过wifi或者路由器的网线插口进行，usb插口仅供外接硬盘用，由于家里音箱的摆放限制，对我来说只能用wifi, 这样如果传送像200G左右就太慢了。另外，传送无损音频时，整张CD的分解文件cue好像是传不上去的，估计HAP-S1只能自动搜寻单首乐曲的匹配内容，如果是一个大文件，就很难自动找到整张CD匹配的解说词，如要一个一个手动添加就麻烦了。

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有关这句话“当UDA-1输入不支持格式的信号时，USB REAR（后置）指示灯会闪烁。如果以高音量进行播放，输入这种信号可能会产生噪音，甚至损坏扬声器或耳机”，本人的理解是，仍然可以 用MacBook的Cog播放软件或者Windows 7的Foobar2000播放APE音频，UDA-1可以接收APE音频文件，但这时和数字同轴/光纤一样，USB信号是先转化成光信号PCM才给解码器的，而不是像对待FLAC格式那样直接解码。

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A-H01以及高版本的AI-501DA（后面这个型号亚马逊有评测说声音可媲美胆机）国外评价都不错；
我主要是看重了它们的高效率和娇小的身材，而且都内置USB异步传输解码器；
需要说明的是，A-H01用的是丹麦著名的D类功放芯片（Bang & Olufsen ICEpower），AI-501DA用的是挪威ABLETEC公司制造的D类放大模块，质量有保证，就是功放不要轻易关闭电源，否则容易导致电脑死机。

A-H01






D/A Converter         Burr-Brown PCM5102
USB Input         USB2.0 High-Speed
USB Transfer Mode         Asynchronous Transfer Mode
Digital audio Input Connector         USB-B, RCA Coaxial, Tos-link Optical
Analog audio Input         RCA Pin x 2
Supported Sampling Rate         32/44.1/48/88.2/96/176.4/192kHz
Supported Bit Rate         16/24bit
Speaker Output         
Connector         AWG8/BANANA-Plug
Supported Impedance         4 - 8 ohms
Maximum output         30W + 30W (8 ohms,1kHz,JEITA), 60W + 60W (4 ohms,1kHz,JEITA)
Frequency Response         10Hz – 80kHz (+/-3dB)
S/N Ratio         100dB (LINE Input、IHF-A/input short)
THD         0.05% (1kHz, 4 ohms)
Headphones Output         
Connector         1/4"(6.3mm) Stereo
Maximum Output         50mW + 50mW (32 ohms loaded)
Power Source         EUR model:AC 230V, 50Hz
US model:AC120V, 60Hz
Power Consumption         34W
Size         215(W) x 61(H) x 258(D) mm
Weight         1.6kg
Standard Accessories         Power code x1, Remote control unit (RC-1268) x1, AAA batteries x2 for RC-1268, Owner's manual x1, Warranty card x1

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Maximum Output Power         90W + 90W (4ohms, 20-20kHz) / 45W + 45W (8 ohms, 20-20kHz)/td>
Rated Output Power         60W + 60W (4ohms, 20-20kHz) / 30W + 30W (8 ohms, 20-20kHz)
Supported Impedance         4 – 8ohms
Total harmonic distortion         0.05% (1 kHz, 4ohms, 55W)
S/N ratio (input short)         
LINE IN         100dB (IHF-A)
Frequency range         10Hz – 60kHz (−3dB)
Digital audio inputs         
COAXIAL         RCA jack x 1 (0.5Vp-p/75ohm)
Sampling frequency         32kHz, 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, 192kHz
bit rates         16/24-bits
OPTICAL         Optical digital connectors x 2 (−24.0 to −14.5dBm peak)
Sampling frequency         32kHz, 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kH
bit rates         16/24-bits
USB         Type B connector x 1 (USB 2.0 compliant)
Sampling frequency         32 kHz, 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, 192kHz
bit rates         16/24-bits
Analog audio inputs         
RCA         RCA jacks x 2pairs
Nominal input level         -10dBV
Maximum input level         +6dBV
Headphones output         
Connector         Standard 6.3mm stereo jack
Maximum output level         50mW + 50mW or more (32 ohm, THD+N 0.1%)
Power supply         AC120V, 60Hz
Power Consumption         55W
Overall Dimensions         290(W) x 81.2(H) x 264(D) mm,
11.4"(W) x 3.2"(H) x 10.4"(D)
Net Weight         4.0kg
Operating Temerature         +5˚C to +35˚C
Operating humidity range         5% to 85% (no condensation)
Storage Temerature:         -20˚C to +55˚C
Accessories         AC Cable, AC Plug Adapter (3P-2P), Remote Control, AAA Batteries (x2), Owner's Manual, Warranty Card

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仔细看了国内外对马兰士M-CR510（国外还有M-CR610，加了CD机和额外的一对音箱接口）的评测和说明书，这是一个价廉物美、几乎无所不能的网络播放及功放一体机。不过有几个要注意的地方，就是它使用的是D类（class D）数码功放芯片，USB输入端口是外接U盘用的（必须格式化成16FAT或者32FAT), 不能用于和电脑连接，只有数字音频输入和模拟输入，没有光纤同轴输入；无线LAN标准是落后的802.11b/g, 有时会导致数据传输不稳定问题；另外，该机不支持直接播放DSD格式音频。