[不重要] <<大兵雷恩>>里一个小问题.

feng.com · 发表于 2003-6-21 14:47

This character is unnamed in the movie, but is referred to as "Steamboat Willie" in the credits. One very common mistake that viewers make in watching Saving Private Ryan is assuming that the German soldier set free by Miller is the same one that kills Private Mellish. The soldier that kills Mellish is from the Waffen-SS, while Steamboat Willie is a regular soldier in the Heer (Army). The two characters do bear a superficial resemblance to each other, largely due to their shaven heads and basic Germanic racial characteristics. In reality German soldiers did not have such closely-cropped hair, but for reasons unkown the production crew made sure that the German extras all received the same haircut.

“其中一个错误就是将他与杀死迈里士的人混淆”。
这可是官方的答案。

看看官方比较：
http://www.sproe.com/steamboat-comp.htm

谢谢各位支持！
怎么样还不快快拿加分来？

:D

luzi · 发表于 2003-6-21 14:51

:D 这个不是官方网站

叫魔帅来辨认一下他们的近卫军、正规军的服装徽章什么的 :D

feng.com · 发表于 2003-6-21 14:54

也差不多。影评既然敢这样写，应该有官方资料支持。

feng.com · 发表于 2003-6-21 15:05

最初由布兰德发表
[B]所以这片我没买，太残酷了！！！！！！！！！！！！！ [/B]

还是汉尼拔里的活吃脑子过瘾！

小李飞机 · 发表于 2003-6-21 15:38

我刚看了一遍，还是觉得就是同一个人。

cttjack · 发表于 2003-6-21 15:55

我支持热血斑竹，看演职员表最可靠。

热血 · 发表于 2003-6-21 15:56

Cast (in credits order) verified as complete
Tom Hanks ....  Capt. John Miller
Edward Burns (I) ....  Pvt. Richard Reiben
Tom Sizemore ....  Sgt. Michael Horvath
Matt Damon ....  Pvt. James Ryan
Jeremy Davies ....  Cpl. Timothy Upham
Adam Goldberg ....  Pvt. Stanley Mellish
Barry Pepper ....  Pvt. Daniel Jackson
Giovanni Ribisi ....  Pvt. Irwin Wade
Vin Diesel ....  Pvt. Adrian Caparzo
Ted Danson ....  Capt. Fred Hamill
Max Martini ....  Cpl. Fred Henderson (as Maximilian Martini)
Dylan Bruno ....  Pvt. Alan Toynbe
Joerg Stadler ....  Steamboat Willie
Paul Giamatti ....  SSgt. William Hill
Dennis Farina ....  Lt. Col. Walter Anderson
Harve Presnell ....  Gen. George C. Marshall
Dale Dye ....  War Department Colonel
Ryan Hurst ....  Pvt. Roger Michaelson
Leland Orser ....  Lt. William Dewindt
Nick Brooks (I) ....  Pvt. Joe D&#39Amato
Harrison Young ....  Old James Ryan
Daniel Cerqueira ....  Pvt. Steve Weller
Demetri Goritsas ....  Pvt. Ron Parker
Ian Porter (I) ....  Pvt. Bill Trask
Gary Sefton ....  Pvt. Ray Rice
Julian Spencer (I) ....  Pvt. David Garrity
Steve Griffin (I) ....  Pvt. Don Wilson
William Marsh (I) ....  Pvt. Bud Lyle
Marc Cass ....  Pvt. Bill Fallon
Markus Napier ....  Maj. Hoess
Neil Finnighan (I) ....  Ramelle Paratrooper
Peter Miles (III) ....  Ramelle Paratrooper
Paul Garcia (I) ....  Field H.Q. Major
Seamus McQuade ....  Field H.Q. Aide
Ronald Longridge ....  Coxswain
Adam Shaw (II) ....  Pvt. Danny Delancey
Rolf Saxon ....  Lt. Frank Briggs
Corey Johnson (I) ....  Shore Party Radioman
Loclann Aiken ....  Cpl. William Sampson
Maclean Burke ....  Pvt. Thomas Young
Aiden Condron ....  Pvt. Maxwell Davis
Shane Hagan ....  Pvt. Stan Debernardo
Shane Johnson (I) ....  Pvt. Brad Lewis
Brian Maynard ....  Pvt. Robert McDonald
Mark Phillips (VI) ....  Pvt. Michael Parkes
Lee Rosen ....  Pvt. Andrew Payton
Matthew Sharp (I) ....  Pvt. Ronald Short
Grahame Wood ....  Pvt. George Valk
John Sharian ....  Cpl. Carl Vittore
Glenn Wrage ....  Pvt. Joseph Doyle

基本上的主演在这里！

仙道 · 发表于 2003-6-21 15:57

SS叫做党卫军，不是近卫军。近卫军是苏联和英国的

热血 · 发表于 2003-6-21 15:59

John Barnett (II) ....  Soldier on the Beach
Victor Burke ....  Soldier on the Beach
Paschal Friel ....  Soldier on the Beach
Paul Hickey (I) ....  Soldier on the Beach
Laird Macintosh ....  Soldier on the Beach
Martin McDougall ....  Soldier on the Beach
Andrew Scott (I) ....  Soldier on the Beach
Vincent Walsh ....  Soldier on the Beach
Crofton Hardester ....  Senior Medical Officer
Martin Hub ....  Czech Wehrmacht Soldier
Raffaello Degruttola ....  Pvt. Goldman (as Raph Taylor)
Nigel Whitmey ....  Pvt. Jerry Boyd
Sam Ellis ....  Pvt. Hastings
Erich Redman ....  German #1
Tilo Keiner ....  German #2
Stephen Grothgar ....  German #3
Stephane Cornicard ....  Jean
Michelle Evans (I) ....  Jean&#39s Wife
Martin Beaton ....  Jean&#39s Son
Anna Maguire ....  Jean&#39s Daughter, Jacqueline
Nathan Fillion ....  Pvt. James Frederick, Ryan
Michael Mantas ....  Paratrooper Lieutenant
David Vegh ....  Paratrooper Oliver
Sam Scudder ....  Paratrooper #1
John Walters (V) ....  Old French Man
Dorothy Grumbar ....  Old French Woman
James Innes-Smith ....  MP Lieutenant
Bryan Cranston ....  War Department Colonel
David Wohl (I) ....  War Department Captain
Eric Loren ....  War Department Lieutenant
Valerie Colgan ....  War Department Clerk
Amanda Boxer ....  Mrs. Margaret Ryan
Kathleen Byron ....  Old Mrs. Ryan
Rob Freeman (I) ....  Ryan&#39s Son
Thomas Gizbert ....  Ryan&#39s Grandson
rest of cast listed alphabetically
Linda Carol (I) ....  Nurse (uncredited)
John de Lancie ....  Letter Reader (uncredited) (voice)
Nina Muschallik ....  Ryan&#39s Granddaughter (uncredited)

这是非主演名单，刚才我也把碟子找出来看了看，我的是星际的D10，看了半天也看不清楚，那一段实在太短了。为什么我不愿意从诸如衣服等细节上面来判断呢，因为大家都知道，一部电影的穿帮是很多的，不排除会有这种这种情况。

cttjack · 发表于 2003-6-21 16:06

还有一点推测，既然片中有着重描写的几次他与翻译的镜头，那就是为了加强戏剧冲突，由此可以推断是一个人。这个也就是所谓的电影和小说的结构，虽然老土了点。:)

守塘猫 · 发表于 2003-6-21 16:08

最初由 cttjack 发表
[B]还有一点推测，既然片中有着重描写的几次他与翻译的镜头，那就是为了加强戏剧冲突，由此可以推断是一个人。这个也就是所谓的电影和小说的结构，虽然老土了点。:) [/B]

这个说法我赞同！！

仙道 · 发表于 2003-6-21 16:09

从剧情的安排以及可能带给观众的心理震撼力来讲，应该是一个人的可能性大些，我早先也是这么想的。
不过……

小李飞机 · 发表于 2003-6-21 16:28

从最后翻译杀他的情景来看，应该是一个人。
如果翻译不知道他杀了机枪手，他也看不到他杀了上尉，那以翻译的角度来看，他有什么理由只杀他一个而放过其他德国人呢？仅仅是因为他不守诺言又参军了吗？好象有点不充分。
而德国人被翻译用枪比着的时候，还亲热的叫了一声“厄提姆”，根本没想到他会开枪，肯定是想我刚刚放过他一马，他一定不会杀我的。
从三个场景来看，虽然俗套一点，但比较合情合理地交代了翻译思想转变的过程。

里昂 · 发表于 2003-6-21 16:34

大家用红圈内的物体来判断！！！

乌鸦 · 发表于 2003-6-21 17:44

还在讨论啊？

我还是坚持最开始的意见，肯定是两个人。

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